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 Has Xmas lost its religious element?
 Yes, it is just commercial 3 100%
 No, Christianity is still there under the commcial wrap 0 0%
Total votes: 3. This poll has been closed.

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As commercialism takes over the festive season even more and other faiths even back it (a councillor in a place near me, a Muslim, pushed the idea of allowing Xmas celebrations which the council had banned in previous years!)

With all this, I reckon the faith concept is shrinking, especially as the other faiths all have some sort on winter celebration, Hanukkah, Divali etc. Calendars vary a bit but they are all around the Winter Solstice and are tending to be seen as one.

For the Christians, there are even bible verses that ban what they do at Xmas

Jeremieh 10 "3 For the customs of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel. 4 They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter."

It is odd that this is ignored in a rush to add holy and fir trees to a house - something which in folk religion is though to keep away evil spirits!

Anyway, what do others think - will they even post?

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Wheels I think you're are right in saying that most societies have their winter festivals and Christmas like Easter was just bolted on to pre-existing pagan festivals when Christianity began to take a hold. Most of us enjoy the feasting and socialising and some (not me) the commercialism of xmas. As for mangers , wise men etc they belong back in humankinds ignorant past, some of the carols are good though as long as you dont take the words as "gospel".

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